By Richard Engel
NBC News Chief Foreign Correspondent
The Turkish smugglers didn’t know quite what to make of us. Normally they traffic cigarettes across the Turkish-Syrian border. Cigarettes are cheaper in Syria than in Turkey. So are cows. The smugglers told us they had moved plenty of cows from Syria to Turkey across the cornfields and melon patches that cover both sides of the border. It’s easy to traffic a cow, one of the smugglers explained. Just dress like a farmer and, if stopped by a border guard, claim the cow went wandering and you chased after it.
"Sorry officer. Won’t happen again."
The smuggler said bringing our team into Syria – without visas, without permission – would be much more difficult.
And I had more bad news for him. We also wanted to film the crossing, and stay inside Syria for several days to conduct television interviews with members of the political opposition being hunted by the Syrian security forces.
The Syrian revolution has been one of the bloodiest of the Arab Spring. The government and security forces of President Bashar al-Assad have killed more than 3,000 people since protests erupted last March, according to the United Nations. The protesters have been demanding more political freedom. Thousands of demonstrators have been arrested or disappeared. But facts are difficult to verify because few journalists are allowed into Syria. Government officials closely monitor reporters it allows in. Our repeated requests for visas were denied. No reason was given.
The smugglers didn’t like the plan and told us in language that was only somewhat less polite than the grimaces on their faces.
Foreigners?
With cameras?
For days?
The risk was too high.
I agreed with one of the smugglers. Yes, it would be easier if we were cows. But this wasn’t adventure travel. Syria’s uprising is important and, to understand it, we would need to go inside.
That’s when we called in Mehmet. Mehmet is man who can get things done. Mehmet is also a pseudonym, his name changed to protect his identity. Mehmet knows Turkey and how to talk to people. If you need an interview with a government official at any time of day or night, Mehmet can set it up. If you need a mobile television studio that can fit on an 18-wheeler, Mehmet can have it built. If you lose your keys in Turkey, Mehmet probably has them. I don’t speak Turkish, but I enjoyed watching Mehmet talk to the smugglers. Mehmet has a weathered face, a devilish smile and bright eyes. He laughs easily and often. We were in a restaurant in southern Turkey not far from the Syrian border. Within minutes, Mehmet and one of the smugglers were laughing. They drank tea. They smoked cigarettes. They ate grilled chicken. They drank more tea and, after about an hour, the smugglers agreed not only to take us into Syria, but also to stay with us and find a safe house where we could hide.
We met the smugglers the next day to start the journey. Our team was Mehmet, John Kooistra, one of NBC’s most experienced combat cameramen, and myself. Our producer Karen Russo remained in Turkey in case things went wrong.
The next day, we were met by a new group of smugglers. They were apparently immune to Mehmet’s charms. They seemed deeply suspicious of us. They clearly didn’t like the mission they’d been given.
We climbed into the back seat of the smugglers’ car near a public park in a Turkish town near the border. The smugglers didn’t talk to us. The man sitting shotgun didn’t turn around to introduce himself or make eye contact. The driver drove a few blocks and then ordered us out. Another car picked us up a few minutes later. The second car drove us out of town and then doubled back into town. We switched cars again. The shell game continued for several hours. I assumed they were trying to shake anyone following us, and also to watch how we reacted to the sudden changes. It was a kind of loyalty test.
Eventually, the smugglers took us to a farmhouse. We were told to wait there and not go outside. They didn’t want us to be seen by Turkish authorities. They thought a group of foreigners hanging out near the Syrian border in a poor farming town may look suspicious. They were probably right. We stayed inside the farmhouse for three days. The wait seemed endless. The smugglers barely talked, so we all watched Turkish Music variety shows on a small television. We stared at the television like people watching the numbers in an elevator, trying to avoid uncomfortable eye contact. Although I could not understand the lyrics, the singing – much of it done by children -- was awful. The dancing was worse. I think I drank 30 cups of tea.
We were told we’d be crossing into Syria at night. I wore a black scarf, a black fleece jacket and dark blue jeans. Mehmet wore the same. John always wears black anyway. He lives in New York City.
After the long wait, and jittery from the tea, things developed quickly. There was activity in the farmhouse. They turned off the variety shows. The smugglers worked with a network of spotters and informants. The spotters watched the border. They tracked the guards, shift changes and patrols. The spotters had found an opening. The smugglers loaded us into a car, but remained typically tight-lipped. I assumed we were being taken to yet another safe house. I was wrong. The car stopped by the side of the road next to a field of tall grass.
"Get out," we were told. "This is it."
The field of grass was where we’d begin our journey across.

NBC News cameraman John Kooistra, pictured. Photo by Richard Engel.
But weren’t we supposed to go at night?
It was three in the afternoon – broad daylight.
We were carrying backpacks.
We were dressed in black.
Our plan felt like it was unraveling. But at least now we were on our way.
A smuggler carved a trail through the grass, which reached well above our heads. The grass was so thick in patches we had to push it down, and climb over it. Crushing and moving the dry grass was noisy, but it provided excellent cover. There was no way we could have been seen except from an airplane.
But then the grass ended, and we were given another surprising nugget from our smuggler-guide. We’d now have to leave the dense grass, cross an open field, climb a barbed wire fence and then cross another field. The first field was still in Turkey. The barbed wire fence was the actual border. The last field was in Syria. Guard towers dotted the terrain. There were periodic armed patrols.
"What?" I remember asking, although I may have added another short word for emphasis.
The smuggler laid it out again.
Out of the grass.
Across a field.
Over a fence.
Across another field.
The distance was two miles from end to end.
Oh yeah, and we’d have to run.
"You didn’t say anything about running," John joked. His dry humor was deeply appreciated.
I could see a Syrian guard tower about 200 yards away. The smuggler thought it was empty.
If we were caught in Syria, as Americans, carrying cameras, dressed like ninjas, we would likely be accused of spying.
Needless to say we ran as fast as we could through the grass, across the Turkish field and over the barbed wire fence. Once inside Syria, we threw ourselves into a ditch in the field. Panting from the sprint and nerves, we tried to stay as flat as possible. We caught our breath in the ditch as the smuggler made a call. His contacts were supposed to meet us on a dirt road at the edge of the farmland in Syria. There was still about a mile-and-a-half to go. We moved foward, running and then diving into other ditches. Finally, we reached the lonely and empty dirt road.
The car wasn’t there.
The smuggler’s contacts were late.
We stood aimlessly by the side of the road as if we’d been stood up by our dates.
I remember thinking that these smugglers were not reliable people.
We waited by that dirt road for an hour, three foreigners with backpacks standing by a Syrian country road. Finally, the car showed up. We climbed in the back. Two new smugglers were up front. The car’s radio was blaring Syrian pop songs. They were singing along with the tunes. I think they were a little drunk. They didn’t seem the slightest bit worried as they sang and smoked (with the windows rolled up) and drove to a small Syrian city.
In the back of the car, John pushed his handheld camera against the window to film as we entered the city. The glass was tinted. But if someone took a good look, he could see inside. John put his camera down as we passed Syrian police and undercover agents called ‘Shabiha.’ The Shabiha are relatively easy to pick out. They are usually young men, often carrying sticks, lingering on street corners. They look like bullies waiting for a fight after school.
True to their word, the smugglers had arranged a safe house in Syria. We pulled up in front of an apartment building, waited for other cars to pass and then briskly – but without running – moved from the car to the apartment building. Once we opened the door, it was clear what the safe house really was. The kitchen was full of empty beer bottles. There was graffiti on walls. Mattresses covered the floors. A lone mirrored bed dominated one of the bedrooms. It was a brothel. Our hosts asked if we wanted any female companions. The smugglers were also pimps. Our confidence in our only lifeline in Syria was dwindling rapidly.
We declined their offer for company, and set out to find the opposition who were risking their lives to demand more political freedom.
It took us a full day to find anyone willing to talk. People were terrified of speaking out against the regime. They worried about the Shabiha and being arrested. They worried about disappearing. Eventually, we spoke to one pro-democracy activist by cell phone. He agreed to come to our safe house after dark for an interview.
I apologized to Gwan Yousif, a human rights lawyer, for the condition of our filthy dwelling when he arrived for the interview. He brushed it off. He told me he was living in a similar situation, on the run from Syrian authorities, moving from house to house. Many of his temporary shelters were equally squalid. Yousif was also moving with his wife. I asked his how she was holding up.
"I promised her this would only be for one year," he said with a laugh. He said they’d mentally budgeted a year of living on the run until Bashar al-Assad was driven from power. Then, Yousif hoped, he’d go back to being a lawyer.
"There’s unbelievable abuse against the people who are protesting," Yousif said. "Torture has become the norm rather than the exception."
"They start hitting you on the way to the jail. There have been some cases where they cut your hands and cut your private areas and poke your eyes and cut your tongue," he said.
"The governments in Tunisia and Egypt didn’t use these kinds of unbelievably abusive methods against protesters. Here the government doesn’t even allow people to congregate."
Yousif said the brutality was only the most obvious form of repression. Even worse, he accused Bashar al-Assad of trying to trigger a civil war.
"They’re putting in people’s heads that if the government falls, there will be civil war," he said.
Syria does have a potentially explosive ethnic and religious mix. About 75 percent of the population is Sunni Arab. Yet Syria is ruled by Alawite Shiites who make up only 15 percent of the people. The rest of Syrians are predominantly Christians and ethnic Kurds. The religious and ethnic divisions are important. Syria is the flip side of Iraq. Iraq has a majority Shiite population who, under Saddam Hussein, were ruled by Sunnis, with Kurds and Christians making up the difference.
The opposition in Syria is strongest among Sunnis, especially in the cities of Homs and Hama. They opposed Bashar al-Assad and Alawite domination. Mosques are rallying points. The Muslim Brotherhood, a pan-Islamic group based in Egypt, has traditional bases in Syria’s Sunni heartland. In Hama in 1982, Bashar al-Assad’s father Hafez carried out a notorious massacre, killing, according to some estimates, 20,000 people in a crackdown against the Muslim Brotherhood.
Bashar Al-Assad’s government claims – in fact adamantly insists -- that the current protesters are not students and dissidents who want more freedom, but Sunni fanatics and terrorists determined to wipe out Alawites and Christians. Al-Assad, who runs a secular government, presents himself as a kind of Alawite and Christian savior. He says his government, because it is intolerant of dissent, is the only thing preventing a civil war. Syrians know the horrors of religious-ethnic war. Iraq is just next door. More than a million Iraqis sought refuge in Syria to escape the carnage in Baghdad, Falujah and Mosul. It is with a degree of tragic irony that many of those Iraqis are now escaping Syria and returning home.
Many Syrian Christians and Alawites share al-Assad’s fears about civil war. Their concerns are not completely unfounded. Reshuffling the ethnic balance of power in Syria – even to bring a more just and democratic system – does have the potential to tear the country apart. Replacing the Alawite-led regime with a Sunni one would also send shockwaves across the region.
Potential consequences could include:
Ethnic Reprisals/Civil War
There could be reprisal attacks against Alawites and Christians who backed al-Assad’s regime. Many senior Syrian military officers are Alawites. They will fight to defend their communities and have the tools and training to do it. A civil war could break out.
Renewed fighting in Lebanon
Syria is a major sponsor of Hezbollah, the militant Shiite group that dominates neighboring Lebanon. Syria is Hezbollah’s supply line, especially for weapons. A Sunni-led regime in Syria would likely be less accommodating to Hezbollah. Hezbollah could react to the loss of its supply line by becoming weaker and more pliable. Or, perhaps even more likely, Hezbollah could become more aggressive as it rivals, especially Sunni groups in Lebanon, sense weakness and try to challenge it.
Weaker Iran
Syria has a strategic partnership with Iran. Western diplomats say Iran is helping Syria crack down on the opposition. Iran stopped its own democratic “Green Revolution” by force. American officials and defectors from the Syrian security forces claim Iran is teaching Syria the same tools of repression it used. Syria does seem to be applying the Iranian model of mass arrests, restricting the Internet and using a violent plain-clothed militia. The loss of Syria as a partner/client would weaken Iran. The impact would be similar to Hezbollah. Iran could either accept the loss and become more cautious, or grow more aggressive.
A boost for Arab revolutionaries
If Syria goes, so may another regime or two. So far, the regimes to fall to the Arab Spring – Tunisia, Egypt and Libya -- have all been in North Africa. Yemen has also nearly collapsed. But Yemen has long been considered a borderline failed state anyway -- isolated, poor and largely undeveloped on the tip of the Arabian Peninsula. I have a personal fondness for Yemen and its people. Perhaps it’s because of the country’s extraordinarily fine honey, its exquisite old medinas, the warmth of its people and the island of Socotra with its fantastic Dragonblood trees and unrivaled biodiversity. But few people in the Middle East have been surprised that Yemen is collapsing. It was collapsing before the Arab Spring. Syria is different. Syria is a major Arab country in the heart of the region. Just a few years ago, Damascus was touted as a new tourist hot spot. If Syria’s regime falls, the Arab Spring movement will be given a new jolt of energy. More regimes could go. Fear of the ripple effect seems explain why many Arab regimes have thus far been cautious in their criticism of Syria’s crackdown.
Israeli Concerns
Al-Assad’s regime opposes Israel and backs Hezbollah (which is violently anti-Israel), but has chosen to avoid direct confrontation. Syria lost the Golan Heights to Israel in the 1967 war. Syria wants the Golan returned in exchange for a peace deal. There have been attempts at negotiations, but all have failed. Yet the Syrian border has remained mostly quiet. After the fall of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and an ominous attack on the Israeli embassy in Cairo, Israel has become deeply concerned about its position in the region. For Israelis, al-Assad may be the preferred devil they know.
President Al-Assad seems fully aware of the regional concerns and unknown consequences of regime change in Syria. In an interview with the British Sunday Telegraph newspaper last week he said Western powers risked causing an “earthquake” that would burn the Middle East if they intervened in Syria.
But geopolitics do not erase the piles of bodies rising in Syria or the thousands of demonstrators who continue to be arrested and tortured.
In our safe house, we were still having problems with the smugglers. The one who crossed with us from Turkey through the grasses was solid. He stayed with us. He seemed reliable. He spoke little, but he made the best of the situation, cleaning up the brothel. He even managed to make tea by hooking up a leaky propane tank.
The two Syrian smuggler/pimps who picked us up inside – showing up late - were complete yahoos. One had a dark scab across his nose and forehead. He claimed he fell down when he was drunk. I think he was in a fight and lost. Either way, the scab said something altogether unimpressive about his character.
It was just after 2 a.m. John, Mehmet and I were sleeping in the safe house when suddenly he heard loud bangs on the door. Someone was knocking and pushing the doorbell repeatedly and urgently. I was awake immediately. Mehmet opened the door. The smuggler with the scab pushed in past him. Breathlessly, he told us the safe house was surrounded by police.
I swallowed hard.
"Stay here," he said. I could smell the beer on his breath. He wasn’t standing straight. His head was cocked to the side, his shoulder crooked. The Syrian fixer spoke Arabic, which I also speak. "I’ll go out and talk to the police. Stay here," he said, and stumbled back into the street.
An impossibly short time later, he returned.
"I fixed it. I sent them away," he said proudly. Then he put out his hand for a reward.
Mehmet was less than impressed. We didn’t want to be too rude or aggressive – we were still dependent on the smugglers - but we also didn’t want to show weakness and stupidity. Mehmet told him, firmly, to go to bed and sleep it off. The smuggler left without any money. He was dejected. He was actually hanging his head as he left. Drunks are not hard to read. We later learned he’d been gambling that night and lost his money. He wanted to get back into a card game. He figured he would try to shake us down, get a few bucks with a petty hustle, and then return to the cards.
Luckily, the protesters we met were much more serious. In fact, they were intellectuals.
A protester picked us up at the safe house and drove us to an apartment. It was a modest but neat family home with clean towels and new soap in the bathroom. We left our shoes by the door. We were greeted like guests.
Inside, we met a journalism student, a law student and the apartment’s owner, a writer and poet. The owner had two children with him. The children were well behaved. The younger boy played on pillows in the living room. His older sister helped his mother bring us water, tea and strong sweet coffee. These didn’t seem like the Islamic fanatics or terrorists the Syrian government claimed they were. They were nice people with all the graces and hospitality that make Syrians wonderful.
The poet agreed with Yousif. Al-Assad was playing on the Syrians' very real fear of a civil war. The government would never relinquish power, he said, and was prepared to plunge the country into ethnic violence to hold on.
"If you ask for the right to eat and live, the government will give it to you. But it will give you nothing if you ask for freedom," the poet said, his son sitting in his lap playing with a cell phone.
He said Alawites had become convinced that they’d be slaughtered without al-Assad. I remember thinking that the threat of civil war is real, but by playing into that fear and exacerbating it, the government could trigger a wider conflict.
On our way to the apartment, we drove past a small demonstration. It was ending as we arrived. The security forces and Shabiha had broken it up with tear gas and by blocking off several streets. There were no serious injuries.
The demonstrators had recorded the protest on cell phones. In the apartment, we watched the journalism student upload the videos of the demonstration to the Internet. He was a leading cyber-activist in the area. With most foreign journalists denied access to Syria, cyber-activism has become critical to keep the revolution alive.
The student told me he worked with a media team of ten other activists.
The law student in the apartment was a young woman. She told truly horrific stories of rape and abuse. She had not witnessed the atrocities personally, but had seen video evidence online. She told me about Hamza al-Khatib, a 13-year-old boy who had his penis cut off in Syrian custody and gunshots in his limbs. A video of Al-Khatib’s disfigured body has been widely distributed on the Internet. He has become one of the symbols ofSyria’s revolution. She told us of about a singer, Ibrahim Qashoush, who had his voice box cut out for opposing the regime. There is also video of Qashoush's severed throat.
This is the type of brutality that comes out in the religious-ethnic war or, more conspiratorially, it is the kind of savagery that can start a sectarian war. I’d seen similar brutality in Iraq. I’ll never forget it.
As we were leaving the apartment, the activists suggested I travel to interview one of Syria’s most prominent opposition politicians, Mishaal Timo. I’d heard of Timo before, but never met him. Timo was well known internationally as an opponent of Al-Assad’s regime long before the current revolt. We were told Timo wouldn’t mind showing his face on camera and would speak openly. It was a great opportunity, but it also made me nervous. Surely Timo’s house and office would be under surveillance. I didn’t want to bring attention to him or attract attention to us. I declined the invitation.
Mishaal Timo was gunned down in his home two days later. Activists blamed the government for the attack. Witnesses say Syrian security forces shot dead two mourners at Timo’s funeral.
Editor's note: Richard Engel's full broadcast report can be seen tonight at 10pm/9ct on NBC's "Rock Center with Brian Williams".














Yeah and when they catch these two jerks it will cost the US a bunch of bucks to get them back.
Why dont we leave these other counties alone and let them solve there own problems, let them kill each other, thats what they want to do anyway, we have enough problems of our own......
I was in Syria less than 6 months ago. I had brains enough not to go in a black "night stalker" outfit, and could talk freely with the people there. I offered to report for CNN and another news agency but never got a response. The reason I made the offer is that while I was going through protests I would watch in the evening their reporters reporting from a five star hotel that there were no protests in the city! They were clueless and never left their rooom. You had to talk to the people (and not get passed around like these two did) to find out what is happening. Having fat want to be commandos in black crossing the border is laughable.
I agree to some degree, but at some point the world does need to know how many people are dying so tyrants can stay in their ivory towers.
There is a point when we have to say enough and without people risking their lives, we have no idea. I didn't want Iraq, Libya, or this, but we aren't going to let any leader massacre whomever they please.
Without the truth we can't make an informed decision. Pretty sure the invasion of Europe would have happened a hell of a lot sooner had we know about the camps. Ditto for Stalin, secrecy allows tyrants to reign unfettered.
I say its time for syria to have open borders...you libs go to downtown damascus and "occupy that till you whiners get your way...or until they kill you. And please dont expect ANY of our tax dollars to help you
"let them kill each other" sounds like something president Bashar al-Assad would say. Buddy Northcutt, you would make a fine dictator.
Hey, Buddy, about the only thing dumber than doing this is explaining how they did it, or reporting this while still there. Darwin award winners. Our media has gotten to where they think they are untouchable, and unaccountable.
Buddy, Totally agree! This
would've cost us if these Bozos were caught.
Nice example NBC! Way to show how those other "hikers" (Iran) were not spying. Yes, this is sarcasm.
Next time you do this and get caught, don't come crying Uncle...Uncle Sam that is. Maybe NBC can post your bail. Have fun with that in Syria.
"tired of pirates" is at half mast in high hopes that he get's to watch occupy wallstreeters get a little Syrian treatment. Nothing helps "tired of pirates" achieve climax like some whiners gettin killed.
"We declined their offer for company" come on Richard..its part of the perks of the job, its called ROCK CENTER now!
Really... another dip@!$%#, who, based on a statement implying that trying to impose rights of free speech on or expect the rights that let these so called"occupiers" rank down america, in a place like syria will get them killed.,is telling me what i want or believe. please point out where I said I hoped to see them killed. And , by the way, most of that post was sarcasm
Their heart is in the right place, unlike just about every other response here. The death of compassion in this country will cost us far more then any diplomatic gaff caused by secret reporters.
I agree completly. Stay out of their problems.
you're a lame cat, dude. they have the courage to show the world what a @!$%#hole Syria has become...get with the arab spring and maybe we can , make a better day
We don't give a damn about Syria because the current regime is not our friend and a regime of Islamic Sunni Psychopaths is definitely not going to be our friend.
#1.12 @RepublicanSteve
Steve...to you and those thinking like you...didn't we invade Iraq to bring them freedom and democracy? Why not do the same for Syria?
When Turkey … the most powerful army by far in the area who lives next door decides that enough is enough Assad will bow out.
The US Government does not have to do anything except maybe back Turkey from a far as a NATO member.
Turkey with its Air force alone could decimate the entire Syrian Military in a few days.
Turkey has a dilemma, Turkey really does not like being involved in this type of action and goes way out of its way any other time these situations arise, and they are the only real functioning democracy based Muslim country I know of.
So stay out of the Turks way, out of their faces, and let them handle this as Muslims trying to end this stupidity on their door steps.
US reporters sneaking in to do interviews is like two year olds asking “Are we there yet?”
This is exactly what the Muslims are referring to when they say stay out of our business.
When the Turk’s decide to end this with their military, many eggs will be broken to finish this, that’s why they are exhausting all other methods before going in.
Unlike the US, when Turkey’s military rolls both sides of this will be hurt, they don’t play, and they shut down everything on both sides, then the Turk’s tell all of them exactly what to do or else and not in a nice way. And then it stays quite, because that’s the way the Turks likes things … peaceful, quite, and respectful so … if they have to beat that into you for awhile that’s your problem.
Everyone wants to enter the darwin contest these days.
Hey, at least he's got a job.
Unbelievable abuse?
Funny you don't see the media much interested in the abuse in China or Saudi Arabia two countries that are good buddies of the U.S. but are probably the most un-democratic in the world.
Looks like the brutal murder of their other designated "arch fiend", Gadhafi, who drove tough contracts with american oil companies and used the money to provide a free education and healthcare to the people in his country, has wetted the american empire's and it's media's taste for blood.
Assad is definitely on their list too but obviously (considering our friendly relation with Saudi Arabia and China) not because his country isn't democratic. It's because Syria doesn't cooperate or take orders from the american empire and doesn't open up its economy to the predations of U.S. corporations like other "good" countries do.
Maybe it's because he shoots their people and they catch it on YouTube.
8 seconds of film speaks volumes.
This is the kind of behavior that will cost lives of field reporters.
Journalists and and pretty much all reporters used to be respected and looked through during wars and other conflict activities. If they start this kind of adolescent behavior they will put a bigger target on all Americans including the journalists. Not smart... not smart at all.
When the journalists become the story...that is where the truth disappears into the "fog of war"....they been using that phrase for a long, long time...and still get away with it.
Um. They took the risk themselves knowing full well they could be executed if caught. I don't see what you're all complaining about? Because they didn't take the kind of precautions you think they should? Because they didn't cross with ghillie suits, an armed military escort, and streaming data from a spy satellite? You guys have seen too many movies. And maybe--to some people--risking their life is worthwhile when so many other people or being tortured and butchered.
The complainers are basically armchair cowards and trolls you see them everywhere on MSNBC and newsvine...it's the same old, same old rightwing posturing and glib stupidity. If they had half the cohones and smarts of Richard Ebgle they'd almost be men.
culheath, you nailed it!
Richard Engle is one of the bravest and smartest people around, and he should be applauded for doing what he can to bring the truth out of Syria.
I fully agree with Joman.Journalists are the only source make effort and hard work to bring us the real and accurate situation what is happening in the real battle field.And six pack only sit back and argue.
Interesting story but how is what is happening in Syria in any way relevant to what I'm doing this weekend?
All news stories are required to relate to you somehow? Got news for ya: You aren't the center of the universe.
you are to self indulged to understand. Just keep living your pathetic little point less life
NBC at least has two people hanging on every word of this silly excuse for investigative journalism.
udunnobro- best post i've seen since the marijuana machines next to the candy bar machines! Hilarious!
You probably like those real relevant stories that will affect your weekend like "The McRib is Back!". Now that's news. Right?
It's people like you that cause the news agencies to report fluff instead of real news.
#4 @UDunnoBro -
No doubt what YOU'RE doing will have a major impact on the world. Just make sure you keep a box of tissue beside you.
This isn't real news. What happens in Syria has no effect on anything here in America. I am sick and tired of hearing a bunch of propaganda so the maniacs in Washington can go get more American troops killed supporting foreign interest.
#4.7 - Hey Devil...10 years ago, I'm sure you were saying that what happens in Afghanistan has no effect on anything here in America.
Open the freaking eyes, ears and mind that you have.
No you are a little late. I was saying stop giving these maniacs weapons and training when Ronald Reagan was arming Osama Bin Laden's Mujaheddin. You sit here and postulate that meddling is good for us but the reverse is true. It was America that built Al Qaeda thanlks to that senile fool Ronald Reagan. It is America meddling in the mid-east that has Al Qaeda and a bunch of other groups gunning for American citizens.
It might be news to you but Al Qaeda's complaint was U.S. foreign policy. Their main complaint was troops in Saudi Arabia. Why do we have troops in Saudi Arabia? Oh, because of Saddam Hussein was the claim of the time. But Saddam became a threat only after our meddling and our arming him to fight Iran.
You might take your own advice.
Here we go again...more naive idiots who like to flirt with disaster. People like this should sign a waver..."if I get caught...forget about me."
Dressed like ninjas, creeping around the border in the night with smugglers. Small wonder journalists are getting tossed into M/E jails for spying or anything else that can be conjured up. How are the dopes who hiked along the Iran/Iraq border?? Darwin contestants without a doubt, Tiber .....
This is what real journalism is all about.
Richard and John, thanks for taking this risk to bring the first-hand stories of the Syrian protest to us.
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suckup...
bulldog dude = jealous icommenter, iblogger who cannot find his way out of the couch.
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suckup...never climbed "in" a couch before...but I did stay at a holiday inn express last nite...in Damascus
Man, I had a crappy day at work. Isn't anyone up for a real debate. Bored. And I lent MY couch to a college kid with massive loans and no future. Trying to get him to run for Congress but after a studious 4 years working through school he can't stand to sit around and bicker all day. Soo UnAmerican.
Bashar al-Asad can't be all that hard to snipe off
Richard you are the best
Journalists with balls ! lets see Katie Couric do this!
She did that...remember the colonoscopy?
Just when I though I didn't like you Bulldog!
I have to agree with everyone on here so far.. what a bunch of Idiots smugglers are breaking the law and the reporters are breaking the law... so who is right here? Don't we have enough problems right here in the good ole U.S.A.? is there no american stories to write about?
The truth needs to be put on the table Brake any law any where that hides it.
It what keeps us free
Just be prepared to pay the consequences when you break that country's law.
One of the biggest problems we are going to face in the future is going to be in the Middle East. We have such a deep commitment to Israel that all events in that area effect us one way or another. We get most of our oil there and we have ties to many other governments in the region. So the more information we have the better off we are. Syria is a big problem for variety of reasons, and soon it might be our problem. We have a lot of problems in our country, but they can be made much worse by Syria descending into chaos!! Good job by these reporters.
Magic
here at home or elsewhere The truth will set you free along with a gun or two to to keep you safe
Wrong barlow...22% of our oil comes from the middle east...most comes from Mexico, Canada, and from our own resources...We get a little from Hugo chavez...enough to run a dinghy up the mississippi.
What law? Laws need to be broken when they result in the people they are for being tortured and killed en masse.
Syria? I thought Mexico.
Perhaps these guys can go hiking in Iran next!
These kind of reports only underscore the danger reporters put themselves in, just so they can put their names on a sensationalist report -- to tell us something we already know. This was a waste of time to read, and even more so to write.
yeah, they are breaking their arms patting themselves on the back.
That may be true, but it's easy to forget how difficult it can be to get the truth. In that part of the world, getting a story is a story. That is the whole point.
If you get captured and tortured, it is your own fault.
Don't look for any help from me.
One thing Assad said is correct. If he goes the Christians in Syria will be slaughtered and run out of town,just look at what is happening in Egypt right now. Seems these peace loving Muslim Revolutionaries have no stomach foe non believers,or Christians ,what ever you want to call them.100 thousand have already left or disappeared.
But wait...Islam is peace. Can't you tell?
Religion of Peace and Tolerance ... yup ...
Another chance for us to act like the people we despise...We abhor the open border of our country and the government continues to allow the flow of illegals into the US...And here we have our citizens ignoring the borders of another nation....I wonder why people hate Americans? Could it be our hypocrisy?
Nah...Its our freedom they despise...Right?
You are way off, the fact that we don't have open borders is what makes us like Syria, not that people cross them.
Think of countries with physical borders, all shameful, and then ones without. Right, and crossing them is what makes us hypocritical ? Torturing political enemies, using force to keep the streets clear of people who disagree with the government, and secret police makes us hyprocrital.
Reporters after the truth doesn't, well unless that pesky 1st amendment isn't important to you.
Are you sure?
Hairfarmer...? Is that, like...a real job?
Bulldog Dude...? Is that because, like... you're so inbred that normal coitus is a physical impossibility?
Great job, I will watch it. I think tonight is the premier of the new Williams program. From what I understand it will be less like news and more like a late night show in the sense that Williams will be talking to people, not just reporting.
These guys are insane, going into Syria. I still can't believe there are places in the world with actual border fences to keep people in.
Death to tyrants, sucks Booth said it right after he killed Lincoln. That includes each and everyone right here, maybe not as violent, but just as corrupt, taking away hopes and dreams because of greed. Buying politicians and waging political war right here on out soil, democrats vs republicans, when it really should be us against them. Tyrants are Tyrants, and death to each and everyone of them.
Remember that next time you poke at the other party, Tyrants are running the show, like in Syria, using our fears to distrust our fellow countrymen/women while they live in their ivory towers.
As long as we taxpayers don't have to bail their A$$e$ and welcome them to heroes return. Idiots.
This was a bad idea.
I fear this is a glimpse of where we may be headed ... Thanks to Richard and John for the hard work ... Can't wait to see the piece tonight ...
Suckup...on a first name basis
So really based on a few interviews, what did we learn?
There's the rub, you have to watch the new show to find out...
You didn't notice the article was a commercial for Williams new show, last paragraph.
theboys, I was just thinking that. A real dangerous mission for what new news?
We live on a small planet and even if we don't want to admit - we are a global community. Isolationism is unrealistic and harmful. Of course, so is the other extreme of over involvement and trying to make everyone a little America.
We better be aware of what is happening around us or we will make stupid decisions and do ourselves more harm than good. Fascinating story.
Wow Richard Engel. First Cairo, then Libya and now Syria. Dude's got a big set of hairy titanium balls, I'll give him that.
He borrowed them from W
Your handle should be bull@!$%# dude, dog.
While I do agree there is some conflict due to the fact he did essentially sneak illegally into a country to spy, we have to remember why he is there. Syria is descending into a more brutal totalitarian state everyday. While there are several issues here at home that we need to deal with, none are related to the brutal killings and torture of peaceful protesters (giving what we've been hearing lately about OWS, I hope it stays that way). I think this is one instance where the risk Richard and his team took were necessary. The world needs to know what is happening. Before someone says that this is where America is headed; it's not. Things are bad, but not 'Syria' bad and I sincerely doubt it ever will be. It's stories like this that make me realize how good we have it. Even though times are really tough and it feels like our government is not out to fight for us, at least we have the freedom to criticize our government and peacefully fight for a better tomorrow.
This type of journalism takes a lot of courage. The Syrians are real people with real problems and it's important the world knows the truth.
Look what happened with Iran. They were on course to change for the better. Then Michael Jackson died and the media stopped coverage. The result: a government hostile to the US is still in power and the people are still living under the burden of tyranny.
What happens over there truly matters over here. This is one world and a small one at that.
Thank you Richard, John and Mehmet.
Wow Tom. You mean the Iran uprising was snuffed out by the news of Michael Jackson's death? Time for our pop stars to go into hiding. The President of Syria will be sending his hit squads here to assasinate them. Tom's theory is right out of Star magazine I think.
No Ron, time for GD media to report important stuff. The trial alone I bet is taking up 20% of media coverage, which means there's a lot of stuff happening we don't know about because we are forced to hear competing propofol doctors non-sense. Or the LL is drinking again. or she has pink boots and forgot her bra. There used to be the news and tabloid news, now it's one in the same.
How much energy is spent chasing Weiner's, weiner while the world burns. 5 mins of Brittan burning for a week vs. endless MJ trial, even though the guy is dead, he still gets more media coverage then the real news.
What country's US embassy just got suicide bombed, who is MJ's doctor ? right, which one should we all know, which one do we all know.
Jesus, there is a reason they are disconnecting the media and internet and it ain't cause they give a rat's A about people looking at porn. It's what fuels it, it's why the protest coverage is being spun as a some sort of joke here, because the powers that actually control the country, own the media, and they like it just the way it is.
It has nothing to do with the stars and everything to do with the laziness and tabloidedness of all the 'serious' media. Just go to MSNBC's hom,e page and count the news stories, then count the pointless drivel about nothing.
That's purty dam funny...the whole time Michael Jackson was the answer! Why didn't obuttwad think of that. Now that the economy is in the dumper, who he gonna kill next? I hope it's sean penn...maybe rosie o'donnell, naw cost too much to bury that fat a$$.